Difference between revisions of "User talk:Holomay"

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Holomay, thanks for the welcome. This is my first time really contributing to a wiki, so I'm still learning my way around. But am really excited about Enderal and looking forward to adding what I can to the project even if it's only in wiki contributions. Are you part of the SureAI team? --J'Sylvan (talk) 14:10, 19 August 2016 (EST)

Learning-by-doing is the best way to improve your wiki skills. Observe what other users do and try to analyze the edits made by others before after your edits. As the help section of the SureAI Wiki is still quite empty, I can now only link to Wikipedia's ...is a work in progress: perfection is not required and Be bold. :) Yes, I'm part of the SureAI/Enderal team - bard songs, editing, writing, translating ... and managing the German and English version of the SureAI Wiki. BTW can you please add a header to your post (between "==" and "==")? It helps navigating the site in the future as the headers automatically generate a table of contents (after the third header). Thanks and happy editing! --Holomay (talk) 14:51, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the Namespace info!

As the title says, thanks a bunch for that - Didn't mean to create any hassle for ya =P Still learning all of this myself, so I'll take any piece of info from a veteran I can get. --Jemolk (talk) 18:34, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

No problem at all! We don't have a proper help section yet, so we have to build the Wiki as we go. I'll gladly help with any problems you encounter while editing. --Holomay (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Say, just wondering... Would it be acceptable to create articles in the main namespace, and then move them to the Enderal namespace after they're created? I prefer not having [[Enderal: within whichever wikipage I happen to be editing - It seems less organized, and redundant somehow. If not, I'm sure I can find another way to hide the [[Enderal:... Something like <noshow>, I think I saw on another page. EDIT: Ahah! Found out the way. When linking, the format should go thusly: Enderal:Riverville|Riverville , all in double brackets, of course. Can I put this on the Namespace page? --Jemolk (talk) 16:00, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Namespace prefixes like "Enderal:" won't show up on the article if a Piped Link is used, which of course should be the standard on the Wiki. If you use the code [[Enderal:Wanted in Ark!]], it will be displayed as Enderal:Wanted in Ark!. If you use the code [[Enderal:Wanted in Ark!|]] (with a pipe "|" at the end), it will be displayed as Wanted in Ark! If you check the page source after you have inserted a link like [[Enderal:Wanted in Ark!|]], you will notice that the wiki software has automatically changed it to [[Enderal:Wanted in Ark!|Wanted in Ark!]], so you don't need to type the page title twice (see Automatic conversion of wikitext with the pipe trick).

Only if you want a link with a link label which is different from the link target, you need to fill in the part to the right of the pipe yourself. Example: [[Enderal:Wanted in Ark!|the bounty quest line starting in Ark]] will be displayed as the bounty quest line starting in Ark.

To move pages to the proper namespace after they're created can result in a lot of work - every single link to a page needs to be corrected then. Pages can be linked to from a huge number of other pages, just have a look at Pages that link to "Enderal:Quests" on our still embryonic Wiki to get an idea. :)

Of course you can extend Help:Namespaces (btw sometimes it's good to leave out the pipe so the namespace is displayed as an additional piece of information as in this case). Any help with the help section is greatly welcomed! --Holomay (talk) 16:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Classes/Memory trees pages

Yo,we need to organize those pages,i think we should make it like in a German version: delete detailed memory trees information,make links to memory trees page, and add info bout combining specializations. I ll try myself in it,so i ask bout check my progression in this sometimes and correct me if something went wrong. --Traven (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good and looks good so far! Creating overview pages linking to more detailed pages is a reasonable wiki structure for many aspects of a game. I think the Memory Tree pages should have sections that elaborate the perks further than the in-game texts do? There's a lot of discussion on the forum about the actual mechanics of talents and passives. --Holomay (talk) 23:09, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Extensions

Hi there, Holomay. I've recently bumped into a very interesting thing (J'Sylvan's fantastic interactive Enderal map), and would like to add it as a feature to the main Enderal page - However, to do so would most probably an extension, or JavaScript. Would extensions be possible to add onto the Wiki? Thanks. --Jemolk (talk) 01:26, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't think the map can be embedded, but it definitely should be featured on the wiki with links. I've asked J'Sylvan in the forum thread if two-way linking between wiki place pages and map locations is possible. --Holomay (talk) 23:23, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Multiple/Composite namespaces

Hey there! When making pages such as Templates or Categories, how should we deal with the Game namespace? Should it be Template:Enderal:Spoiler or Template:Enderal-Spoiler or Template:Enderal Spoiler, etc? - Davipb (talk) 09:40, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

First of all, thanks a lot for helping out with important wiki maintenance stuff like templates and redirects! The code of templates like Template:Needs Images can be extended so that they are displayed differently in each namespace (see Template:Breadcrumb, for example). I think we should try to minimize the number of namespace-specific templates and try to make them adaptive whenever possible.

While it does not create errors, I think it should be avoided to include colons in template or category names as colons are used to separate namespaces from page titles and should be reserved for that purpose as much as possible. The categories still need to be fleshed out. It's fine to have different categories for an article - please have a look at the categories used on the German version of the wiki. Quest articles like Nehrim:Der Blick zu den Sternen belong to the categories Nehrim-Quests and Nehrim-Quests-Hauptquest (Hauptquest = Main Quest). It may be a good idea to have a similar category structure on the English wiki? --Holomay (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC)